Prosper.com Edits Wikipedia: Removing Criticism

Wiseclerk mentioned the fighting over the Wikipedia article on Prosper. (The disagreement can be seen on the Wikipedia talk page. ) This reminded me of the wikipedia scanner. The wikipedia scanner checks Wikipedia edits versus the IP address of the editor and looks up the domain to find out possibly what company or governemnt agency made the change. Some interesting examples of Wikipedia Scanner usage include:

So what did Wikipedia users with Prosper Marketplace IP addresses edit on the Prosper wikipedia page? [Read more...]

Zopa Open for P2P Lending in the USA

Zopa, the P2P Lending company from the UK has now opened its virtual doors in the United States. Zopa has been providing a P2P marketplace in Italy and the UK for some time now. The rates that they are offering to borrowers (currently starting at 8.75%) for unsecured loans are quite low and can go as low as nothing with help. The rates provided to lenders, although greater than a government CD, are not outstanding, but Zopa’s differentiating factor from other P2P lending sites is that Zopa loans are guaranteed.

To summarize and simplify Zopa’s somewhat complex model, let me walk you through the steps as a lender — How Zopa Works:

  1. Register and open an account with one of the member credit unions.
  2. Lend money to the credit union at a flat and guaranteed rate which is higher than a CD, but is also backed by the FDIC up to $100,000.
  3. You pick a small portion of your return (called help) and give to a particular borrower(s) to lower the borrower’s monthly payments.

So again it is a guaranteed flat rate of return which is greater than a 1 year CD, unless you choose to lower the return to give the difference away. The return is less than you might earn with Prosper or Lending Club, but you do not take on the credit risk, so your principle is not at risk. You are lending money to the bank and not directly to the individual in this case. So to inject the P2P aspect of the lending, Zopa allows you to give away a bit of the differential between the rate at which they loan out the money and interest that they are paying you. So if you loan Zopa, er, rather the credit union via Zopa, lots of money, you can discount the rate at which your uncle, bother, or sister (or the girl who has a cute picture — and I expect to see lots of attractive pictures posted at Zopa) borrows money by you giving the borrower a bit of the return to lower their payment. According to the marketing material, everyone wins. Well, as long as the lender is happy tying up their money for a full year at rates just slightly higher than a government bond – or less than government bond if the lender prefers to give more juice to borrowers. And of course Zopa wins who takes no risk on the transaction since Zopa is actually a middle man between the credit unions and the individuals.

The True Irony of Zopa

Did you catch that last bit? My review of Zopa is that it is ironic that a web 2.0 P2P lending site is actually serving as middle man between borrower and bank and lender and bank. Zopa has injected themselves into the middle of a transaction that you could have more directly entered. Very ironic, but at least they do seem to offer good rates and an interesting concept.

Update: Zopa Borrowers Receiving Negative Interest Rates on Loans

More than ironic… What is the point of using Zopa lending to a relative? If your purpose is to gift a relative some money by lowering their rate by lending your money at less than the going rate, might I suggest you simply gift the relative some money instead and cut out the middle man?

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Prosper and Lending Club Advice for New Lenders

Advice for new lenders on Lending Club and Prosper Marketplace

Advice for new lenders on Lending Club and Prosper MarketplaceBased upon my recent request, I received some useful advice from several P2P lending bloggers that I was grateful to receive before investing in my first loans with Lending Club. I am also excited to share this advice with other potential lenders. First, let me offer my own advice that I wrote on another site I just started – Five Prerequisite Investments to P2P Lending. I listed out the top five places you should put your money before even considering lending with Prosper or Lending Club.

Quick Tip: if you have not already signed up, use these links to Lending Club or Prosper for a free cash bonus upon account funding.

I received advice from the bloggers at Prosperous Land, Prosper Lending Review, Rate Ladder, Lazy Man and Money, and My Microfinance (link removed because website no longer available). So what advice did these bloggers have for newbie lenders?
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Blenders Borrowing-to-Lend: Earn money on good credit?

As I browsed Prosper loans, I was surprised at the number of community members who would like to use their good credit score to borrow money in order to reinvest the money in other P2P loans. This is called leverage and by definition it does increase risk. Is it a strategy that is likely to payoff?

The borrow-to-lend strategy was referenced before in an article on OmniNerd. As of this posting on the Prosper website, LeedsGirl (AA credit) is looking for $2,500 to reinvest in Prosper loans. Bpyatt is asking for a similar loan for $10,000 at 11%. MoneyDoc99 (AA credit) is borrowing money to reinvest as part of a Doctoral project. The list of people doing this goes on, and on and on. In fact, at least 5 of the 25 people who appeared on the first page of loans were lenders borrowing to reinvest in prosper loans. Another person on the front page is reinvesting in the Chinese stock market. The funniest part is the text of this loan request, which is already completely funded at 12%. Engle writes in his loan request:

I recommend this investment to anyone with $5,000 USD sitting around. The USD will continue to depreciate in the next few years… Since I do not have the capital to readily invest in foreign markets, I am request this loan to fund my “riskless” investment in the Chinese currency and market.

It sounds like he would also recommend this investment to anyone — even if they do not have $5,000 laying around to invest. I would certainly not call the investment without risk. If it was a “riskless” investment, it would pay the same rate of return as a US treasury bond. Maybe he forgot about the Asian financial crisis which occurred only about 10 years ago. I would question anyone’s investment acumen who calls an investment in single market on borrowed money “riskless.” Personally, I have been increasing my stock percentage in foreign funds due to the likelihood that the dollar will continue to depreciate, but it is certainly not a strategy without risk.

I am calling the strategy Borrow-t0-Lend, but many of the people on Prosper trying the strategy label the practice “Borrowing to Reinvest.” Other lenders call the people who borrow to lend “Blenders.” So is it a good idea to use your good credit score to lend to others with a lower credit score? [Read more...]

Stanley Bing: Who is to Blame for the Subprime Credit Crisis?

Stanley Bing at CNN Money blogged about the subprime lending crisis and the falling dollar in his article “Who’s to blame for the credit crisis, the housing slump, the weak dollar, and the fear of recession? It’s a guy named Leonard.

Yes, Bing, you have me interested. Who the heck is Leonard and why is he responsible? Of course, I am expecting a tongue in check answer from you, but let’s find out… Who is this guy Leonard?

It’s clear this whole subprime mess is much worse than anybody anticipated. Things are crashing. Stuff is burning. The best and brightest minds are at work on how to solve this crisis before it sinks the global economy into a hopeless morass that will plague us all for decades. No, wait. They’re the ones who caused it… I believe it is our duty… to pinpoint blame.

Bing goes on to “interview” the former head of a bank, an investment bank board member and a quant who all send him on the search for Leonard Flanken. Bing happens by Flanken [Read more...]

Would you lend money to Britney Spears?

Lending money to someone can be a difficult decision. The only two items that should come to mind are the interest rate and likelihood of repayment. Income should be factored into the probability of repayment, but there is more at play than is visible in a profile on Lending Club or Prosper. Take the example of Britney Spears’ lavish spending. Her monthly income is $737K but she has managed to save nothing and spends more than $100K per month on gifts and travel. Britney has a high mortgage payment, but would have a reasonable debt to income ratio. Risk is a much more complex decision than simply the Debt to Income ratio [Read more...]

Financial Risks in P2P Lending

According to Club Lending there are several types of risks in lending using Lending Club services. The risks listed are different from the traditional financial investment risks which are foundational enough to deserve to be addressed in a separate post. Below (in the quote sections) is the risk information provided by Lending Club:

Participating in any financial transaction carries elements of risk, and online person-to-person lending is no exception. We strive to create an easy, safe and private environment for people to bypass the banks and borrow or lend money at better rates. Below, we address the main types of risks associated with online financial transactions in general, and explain the measures we have taken to reduce these risks.

I agree with that statement because every investment carries general economic condition risk and inflation risk. However, other investments, such as money market savings or US government bonds, do not carry the same risk as participating in a P2P lending network. P2P lending lenders must carry [Read more...]