GlobeFunder – Hedge Fund or Peer Lending?

I received a promotional email from GlobeFunder today. What amazes me is that they seem to be targeting hedge fund qualified investors, but the email says that they have only originated $100,000 loans since January 1st, 2008. That is a slow start in volume and one that is not likely to entice many major institutions to invest. It is not worth the paperwork to invest such small sums from a large portfolio — it simply will not move the ROI needle. Dwarfing that number Prosper has pushed out $117 million in loan volume. The same article mentions that January 2008 alone was $7.2 million in loans.

Edit 11/28/2008 : See the comments following this article in the comments by the Globfunder CEO.

Here is the text of the GlobeFunder email:

When the media is absorbed in (some would say paralyzed by) the global credit crisis and market downturn, it’s hard to bring attention to a global event closer to home: GlobeFunder is shaking-up the traditional lending world. But we’re being noticed by the likes of Forbes and others [Read more...]

Second Peer to Peer Lending Carnival

I participated in the second peer to peer lending carnival which is hosted at Brip Blap. There were too many good submissions to decide on a favorite post in this carnival, but I will post links and comments below to a few favorites. I submitted my article on Lending Club rejecting most loan applications.

Peer-Lend posted information on the new bidding guidance and interest rates. Moolanomy posted information about his second loan on Prosper. Prosper Lending Review interviewed the Fynanz CEO. (That one was interesting enough that I already blogged about it.) Rate Ladder updated the vintage curves.

WiseClerk make some P2P lending predictions for 2008. One of his predictions (listed at 75% probability) [Read more...]

PLR Interviews Fynanz CEO Chirag Chaman

Tom interviewed Chirag Chaman who is the CEO of the soon to be released new P2P lending site Fynanz which will focus on student loans. It seems like a small niche since there are already governemnt backed loans in this category and the rates are rather reasonable at banks. However, with the price of tuition continually out pacing inflation and standard loan sizes, this may be a niche worth pursuing.

I found the answer to the following question interesting [Read more...]

First Peer-to-Peer Lending Carnival

Lazy Man and Money posted the first P2P Lending Blog Carnival. I am excited that he mentioned my post on Lending Advice for New Lenders as his favorite. Despite my article being Lazy Man’s favorite, it did not make the list on the Official Prosper Blog coverage of the carnival.

My personal favorite blog posting from the Carnival was the 2007 summary of P2P lending. It is a concise summary of many recent events in the person-to-person lending marketplace.

Jacob at Early Retirement Extreme had a thoughtful post on why P2P lending with Prosper did not work out as he intended. Here is a quote from his post:

Most borrowers are good people. It is the remaining 10% that ruins it for everyone else… it is very difficult to predict who will break or keep their promises. I now understand why credit card companies and payday loan companies charge exorbitantly high interest rates… It is to cover their default rates and the high interest rate should basically be thought of as an insurance premium rather than a profit. If there was a better way to weed out the bad borrowers, the rest of us could enjoy loans at the prime rate.

RateLadder posted new Prosper Vintage Curves. He posted previously an explanation of vintage curves if the graph leaves you scratching your head.

I was also glad to hear from a borrower [Read more...]

Glenn Chapman on P2P lending at Prosper, Virgin, Kiva and Zopa

Glenn Chapman wrote an article about P2P lending which can be found at Yahoo.com News. Included in the article were Prosper.com, Virgin Money, Kiva, and Zopa. Below are a few excerpts from Glenn Chapman’s article and my comments. Glenn Chapman begins the rehashed material article with a great feel-good tag line:

The Internet is directly connecting investors and borrowers, letting them take banks out of the lending equation and put their money where their hearts and dreams are.

Never mind the details that Zopa is actually adding a layer of bureaucracy between the bank of the people involved rather than removing it in its US based model:

Zopa feels US investors are steering clear of risk so, in contrast to its London-based service, the firm guarantees lenders will get their money back. Lenders at Zopa put their money into the equivalent of certificates of deposit, selecting borrowers they want to direct funds to and picking interest rates from pre-set ranges. Zopa banks on its borrower-screening savvy to minimize losses.

On to the Prosper.com information listed in the article because this was my reason for posting about Glenn Chapman’s article in the first place…

If a Prosper borrower fails to pay back a loan the default is reported to credit agencies and eventually sold to collection agencies. The default rate on Prosper loans is a meager three percent.

There are several items related to Prosper.com that people complain about 1) censorship (see my article on Prosper editing Wikipedia and the comments at the WSJ) 2) poor collections (link to one of Prosper’s Top Lenders Collections Issues) and 3) the default rate is higher than expected and advertised.

Prosper claims the default rate is 3% which is only technically true by the Prosper.com definition of a default and includes all loans — even very recent ones. The 3% default figure does not take into account that the average three-year loan is only less than one year old. Prosper statistics on Lending Stats can easily prove this. Take a look at the below graph generated from LendingStats.com:

Lending Statistics for Prosper.com
Prosper’s statistics are technically correct per their definition — less than 3% of Prosper loans have been put in the status of “defaulted.” However, for a Prosper loan to go into default, it must be more than 4 months late and only once per quarter are all loans which are more than four months late are classified as defaulted.

Considering that the average age of a loan listed currently at Prosper is only 284 days (approximately 9.5 months) and that it takes four or more months to be considered in default, there are many more loans that are going to default in the near future. See this prosper statistics page which shows default rates on loans originated in the first several months of the site to be in excess of 20%. That is right, the default rate is probably going to actually be more than 20% after three years. A default rate of 1 in 5 loans is horrible. Banks would be out of business, but Prosper does not share in the risk only the people lending.

How Many Prosper Loans are Late? [Read more...]

Rex Dixon: Social Media Director of Lending Club Blog

I ran across Rex Dixon’s blog. He is the Social Media Director at Lending Club. I think that means that he blogs, searches forums and blogs to comment, and does other cool stuff that most of us do for free. (Are you jealous too?) Anyway, Rex Dixon blogged on Lending Club and he did disclose that he works for Lending Club.

Speaking of Lending Club and Who is Who, I must note that if you go to my review of my initial Lending Club experience, the CEO of Lending Club (Renaud Laplanche) responded. Thanks Renaud!

Anyway, in Rex’s post on Lending Club, he stated nothing out of the norm. To just take an excerpt:

Caught in the wake of the credit crisis, people in every community across America are looking for alternatives to traditional banks and credit institutions to help meet their financial needs. Over the course of the last six months, lenders have earned an average 12.2 percent annualized return after fees and losses.

Members of Lending Club have loaned and borrowed more than $3.5 million within the network, growing 100 percent monthly since it launched six months ago. To help people identify lending and borrowing opportunities, Lending Club uses its proprietary affinity-matching technology, LendingMatch â„¢. See these statistics for more information.

Rex often posts in the P2P No Bank Forums.

Lending Club ROI Bonus: 5% extra return as a “Thank You!”

Lending Club is offering a 5% ROI bonus in the form of a “Thank you!” to investors who lend more than $5,000 before February 3rd 2008. If you lend $5,000 before the deadline, you will receive a bonus of $250! If you use my Lending Club Affiliate Link and open the account with $1,000 initially, you will receive an additional bonus of $50! That will add up to an extra 1% to your P2P lending ROI. The best news is that the more you loan, the more bonus you will receive, so if you loan a total of $10,000 before the deadline, you will receive a $500 bonus payout. Even better you can take the bonus out in cash or reinvest it at Lending Club.

How would the Bonus Impact your Lending ROI? [Read more...]

Prosper.com Edits Wikipedia: Removing Criticism

Wiseclerk mentioned the fighting over the Wikipedia article on Prosper. (The disagreement can be seen on the Wikipedia talk page. ) This reminded me of the wikipedia scanner. The wikipedia scanner checks Wikipedia edits versus the IP address of the editor and looks up the domain to find out possibly what company or governemnt agency made the change. Some interesting examples of Wikipedia Scanner usage include:

So what did Wikipedia users with Prosper Marketplace IP addresses edit on the Prosper wikipedia page? [Read more...]

Zopa Open for P2P Lending in the USA

Zopa, the P2P Lending company from the UK has now opened its virtual doors in the United States. Zopa has been providing a P2P marketplace in Italy and the UK for some time now. The rates that they are offering to borrowers (currently starting at 8.75%) for unsecured loans are quite low and can go as low as nothing with help. The rates provided to lenders, although greater than a government CD, are not outstanding, but Zopa’s differentiating factor from other P2P lending sites is that Zopa loans are guaranteed.

To summarize and simplify Zopa’s somewhat complex model, let me walk you through the steps as a lender — How Zopa Works:

  1. Register and open an account with one of the member credit unions.
  2. Lend money to the credit union at a flat and guaranteed rate which is higher than a CD, but is also backed by the FDIC up to $100,000.
  3. You pick a small portion of your return (called help) and give to a particular borrower(s) to lower the borrower’s monthly payments.

So again it is a guaranteed flat rate of return which is greater than a 1 year CD, unless you choose to lower the return to give the difference away. The return is less than you might earn with Prosper or Lending Club, but you do not take on the credit risk, so your principle is not at risk. You are lending money to the bank and not directly to the individual in this case. So to inject the P2P aspect of the lending, Zopa allows you to give away a bit of the differential between the rate at which they loan out the money and interest that they are paying you. So if you loan Zopa, er, rather the credit union via Zopa, lots of money, you can discount the rate at which your uncle, bother, or sister (or the girl who has a cute picture — and I expect to see lots of attractive pictures posted at Zopa) borrows money by you giving the borrower a bit of the return to lower their payment. According to the marketing material, everyone wins. Well, as long as the lender is happy tying up their money for a full year at rates just slightly higher than a government bond – or less than government bond if the lender prefers to give more juice to borrowers. And of course Zopa wins who takes no risk on the transaction since Zopa is actually a middle man between the credit unions and the individuals.

The True Irony of Zopa

Did you catch that last bit? My review of Zopa is that it is ironic that a web 2.0 P2P lending site is actually serving as middle man between borrower and bank and lender and bank. Zopa has injected themselves into the middle of a transaction that you could have more directly entered. Very ironic, but at least they do seem to offer good rates and an interesting concept.

Update: Zopa Borrowers Receiving Negative Interest Rates on Loans

More than ironic… What is the point of using Zopa lending to a relative? If your purpose is to gift a relative some money by lowering their rate by lending your money at less than the going rate, might I suggest you simply gift the relative some money instead and cut out the middle man?

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Zopa Promises to be Different

I recieved my informational email from Zopa announcing that they are in the testing phase. Zopa is promising to be different than the existing Person to Person lending sites such as Prosper.com and Lending Club in some interesting ways:

  • No risk for investors.
    Your funds will be federally insured. No more worrying about whether your borrowers will pay your loan back.
  • Pick who you want to help.
    Investors will choose exactly who they want to help.
  • Set your rate.
    Investors will choose how much they want to earn, up to a ceiling.
  • No waiting.
    Borrowers will get their loans immediately upon approval.
    Lower your monthly payment.
  • Borrowers can actually reduce their loan payments after they’ve borrowed. They’ll do that using rich profiles…

How will we do all this? By using some very cool technology and a terrific partnership with leading credit unions. More coming soon! And we do mean soon…

I am very curious about how the federal insuance will work. I want more details on that. It seems like that will encourage reckless lending. “Rich Profiles” sounds like a great cconcept for borrowers but again I need more information to effectively evaluate this. The other two bullet points do not seem enough different to shift the market.

Zopa is also requesting potential borrowers sign up to assist with the testing phase.

We could use some borrowers to pound on the site, take out loans, and make sure all our bells and whistles are…ringing and whistling.

If you were thinking of borrowing on Zopa, have good credit (FICO 640+), and are a U.S. resident 18 or over, drop us a line:
questions@zopa.com

Edit: Zopa was mentioned in a WSJ article today and in the WSJ blogs where the comments are critical of Prosper.